My IVF Cycle Failed – What Went Wrong? Question #8: Was the Timing, Dosage and Type of hCG “Trigger” Optimal?
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This is the 8th in a series of answers to common questions about failed IVF.
The precise timing to administer the hCG “trigger” that will launch a cycle of controlled ovarian stimulation (COS) for both IVF and non-IVF cycles is very important. If mis-timed by even one day, it can compromise egg/embryo quality and lead to IVF failure.
Those of us who have been in this field for some time will recall how (prior to the introduction of “prolonged coasting”), we would often administer hCG prematurely (i.e. prior to optimal follicle development) in an attempt to reduce the risk of life-endangering severe ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome (OHSS). This was done in a deliberate attempt to cut the cycle short, and more often than not we would end up with poor quality eggs/embryos and a failed IVF cycle. Many of us in years past also attempted to force the development of larger follicles in “poor responders” by delaying the hCG trigger shot, which also frequently netted poor quality eggs/embryos and failed IVF cycles.
Yes indeed…when it comes to the hCG trigger shot, timing is critical! However, knowing precisely when to give it requires both a high level of experience and a great deal of finesse! And, while there are certainly guidelines that are helpful in determining such timing (follicle size, blood estradiol level and number of days of ovarian stimulation), these are often inexact. The decision thus requires a clinical judgment call which is part of the essential “art” aspect of reproductive medicine, rather than the science. This article outlines some important roles of hCG both in terms of triggering ovulation and in the nurturing of early pregnancy.
Human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) is a hormone produced by the cells that envelop the “root system” (trophoblast) of the early embryo. It reaches the mother’s circulatory system in a sufficient amount to be detectable in her blood within 5-7 days of implantation. Thereafter, hCG blood concentrations tend to double every 48 hours for several weeks, whereupon the levels rise more slowly throughout pregnancy. hCG reaches the urine in sufficient amounts to be detectable by most urine pregnancy tests about 10-12 days following implantation (about 14-16 days after ovulation).
The Role of hCG in Ovarian Stimulation and in the Ensuing Pregnancy
Maturing the egg in preparation for ovulation:
As a prelude to ovulation which usually occurs within 38-42 hours of the intramuscular administration of a dose of hCG (usually 10,000U) to women who have undergone controlled ovarian stimulation (COS), the egg begins a process known as meiosis (also known as reduction division or maturational division). Here, the egg, which to this point contains 46 chromosomes (23 pairs aligned in a spiral arrangement) sets out to halve its number of chromosomes from 46 to 23. The meiotic process is usually completed within 28-24 hours. Survival of the human species is totally dependent on the orderly occurrence of meiosis so that subsequent fertilization of the mature egg by a mature spermatozoon (which has also undergone meiosis to halve its number of 23 chromosomes) will result in the propagation of a chromosomally normal embryo (euploid embryo) with precisely 46 chromosomes (the normal human genomic make-up).
An egg that, following meiosis, ends up with an irregular quota of chromosomes is incapable of propagating an embryo with a regular number of 46 chromosomes. In this regard, it is important to recognize that it is the egg, rather than the sperm that plays the dominant role. An embryo that has more or less than 46 chromosomes is aneuploid (“incompetent”) and incapable of propagating a healthy pregnancy. It will not divide or implant properly, resulting in a failed pregnancy or miscarriage and in some cases, the birth of an aneuploid baby (e.g. Down syndrome).
Unfortunately, aneuploidyof human eggs/embryos is quite common. In fact, even in young women, only about two in five mature eggs will have a regular number of chromosomes (23), and the incidence of aneuploidy increases rapidly with advancing age. By the mid-forties, more than nine-in-ten are aneuploid, which serves to explain why the incidence of infertility, pregnancy loss/miscarriage, and Down syndrome all increase with advancing age of the egg provider. When only one or two of the 23 chromosome pairs of the embryo have an extra or missing copy, the condition is referred to as “simple aneuploidy,” whereas when three or more chromosome pairs are involved, we term it “complex aneuploidy” (see later)
Ensuring hormonal support for the early pregnancy:
During the immediate post-implantation period and during very early stages of pregnancy, hCG ensures survival of the ovarian corpus luteum which produces progesterone and estrogen to sustain the implanting pregnancy. This indispensable role of hCG continues up until about the 7th-8th week of pregnancy. In fact were the corpus luteum to die prior to this stage, the pregnancy would almost certainly die. However, after the 8th week, placental development has reached the stage where ovarian hormone production is no longer indispensable to the survival of the pregnancy, and even removal of both ovaries would not likely lead to pregnancy loss.
The immunologic role of hCG:
hCG Also plays a crucial role in promoting and modulating the immune acceptance of the fetal allograft (the implanting embryo). This function is most pronounced during early implantation but continues and protects placental growth and development throughout gestation.
Preparing the follicle for ovulation:
As is the case with the LH surge, hCG, among other things, signals the well-developed egg to alert the cumulus cells that bind it to the inner wall of the follicle to release enzymes that will cause these cells to segregate or disperse, allowing the egg to become very loosely attached to the lining of the follicle. Thereupon, through a combination of pressure changes in the fluid of the follicle and erosion of the follicle wall, the egg is extruded and released (ovulation has occurred).
What is not often well appreciated is that in order for the egg to interact properly with surrounding cumulus cells, it must have the required genetic ability. It so happens that severely (complex) aneuploid eggs often lack this ability, causing the cell dispersion mechanism to fail, and resulting in the egg being retained within the follicle. Such eggs will often fail to be retrieved during needle aspiration with IVF. In such cases, the patient is often led to believe that her follicle(s) was/were “empty”. Since no follicle can develop unless there is an egg to “direct” the process, this is a misleading conclusion. This is unfortunately sometimes still referred to as “empty follicle syndrome”. In such cases the unfortunate patient often reaches the erroneous conclusion that she had no eggs in the first place when the failure to harvest eggs might instead have been due to other factors that lead to complex egg aneuploidy, such as advanced age and/or a suboptimal protocol for ovarian stimulation.
The precise timing of administering the hCG trigger following COS is indeed critical. If the hCG injection is administered too early (prior to optimal follicle/egg development) or too late (when the egg is “over-developed) it is far more likely to result in disorderly meiosis and egg/embryo aneuploidy. Such an aneuploid egg, especially if it is complex aneuploid, might not come free at egg retrieval, it may not fertilize, or will result in an incompetent embryo.
What type of hCG should be used, and what about using an agonist “trigger” instead?:
Then there is the issue of the type of hCG administered (urinary derived [Profasi, Pregnyl, Novarel] or recombinant DNA-derived hCG [Ovidrel]), whether the dosage of hCG should be lowered in cases of threatening OHSS, and/or whether hCG should be supplanted by the administration of an agonist (Lupron) – which by triggering in the body’s own pituitary LH is thought to potentially lower the risk of OHSS.
First, there is no advantage in giving Ovidrel instead of urinary-derived hCG. Furthermore, in my opinion, at the recommended dosage, Ovidrel has a much lower biopotency (and is less effective) than 10,000U of urinary-derived hCG. It is also much more expensive. If Ovidrel is to be used to “trigger” ovulation, I believe that it should be prescribed at double the recommended dosage.
Second, in my opinion, administering urinary hCG at a reduced dosage from the usual 10,000U to lower the risk of OHSS in hyperstimulated women, will often result in an inadequate biological response, a low percentage of follicles that will yield eggs, and poorer quality eggs/embryos.
Third, initiating an LH surge with an agonist can be effective if used selectively since women who have had their pituitary reserves depleted by prior administration of an agonist during COS might not have enough left in reserve to surge after the agonist “trigger.” Besides, there is currently no consensus that doing so will lower the risk of OHSS.
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I have been through 14 cycles of ivf (the 4th was successful and I have a 2.5 yo daughter). I have been through 2 cycles of EFS. The last cycle I had 9 follicles and only 4 eggs retrieved (all became good embryo) none of the 4 took. In almost every cycle I am also plagued with a functional cyst. Other than that I am "unexplained" with everything coming out normal including a fsh of 8 (I am 41).
Do the 2 problems (efs and cyst)stem from the same source, the LH surge? Is there a protocol that can deal with this?
Thank you for your informative site and answers.
I would love to give you a direct answer, but obviously without much more information I cannot! WE need to talk and thereafter I would be in a much better position to advise you!
Call 800-780-7437 (or if you are from out of country, call 702-617-7437) to set up a free consultation by phone!
Geoff Sher
Is it worth it to try a double HCG shot for the "empty follicles" or are the eggs in those follicles simply aneuploid and not worth trying to get?
Hi Jenicini,
Sorry but I am afraid that will not help!
Geoff Sher
I recently had my first IUI using Follistim/Ovidrel. I am concerned about the timing of the IUI, and/or am wondering if it is possible that the Ovidrel trigger sometimes not stimulate ovulation in the timeframe you suggested. I was taking Follistim for five days and had an ultrasound on the 8th day of my cycle. It showed 3 follicles approximately 11mm in size and then some smaller follicles. My RE increased my Follistim dose (from 50mg to 75mg) for three more days. I then took the Ovidrel at 10:00am on the 11th day of my cycle with the IUI at 11:30am the following day. Forgive me in advance as I know these are not valid measures of ovulation, but I have been monitoring my BBT and cervical mucus, and I continued to have fertile cervical mucus for three days after the trigger, and my temperature has still not risen (and it does so consistently each cycle). Is it possible the trigger didn't work?
Indeed! For the reasons cited in this article, Ovidrel can in m y opinion cause "triggering problems". Why don't you go for an ultrasound stat and ask your RE to look for signs that ovulation occurred.Also do a plasma progesterone level. It is possible that you have luteinized unruptured follicle syndrome (read up on this condition elsewhere on this site.
Good luck!
Geoff Sher
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I recently had my first IUI with no stimulation (with Ovidrel to trigger). Trigger was 0h30 CD11 with insemination at 11h30 on CD 12, at 35 hours from the trigger shot.
I have been tracking my LH surge through OPKs and although I had a dark line (almost positive) on CD12 morning after the shot…it seems darkest this morning on CD13. Also my BBT was not significantly higher this morning.
Is it possible that the shot didn't trigger ovulation within 36 hours? Could I be ovulating later than expected?
Can one ovulate earlier than 36 hours after HcG trigger? Are there a subset of women who ovulate sooner than expected, and could I be one of them?
Let me explain. I have now been through two failed mini-IVF cycles. (clomid, femara and follistim 75u, stim for 6 days roughly) I was told to do minimal stimulation was the right course of action for me because I am 38, and have DOR – and that I wouldn’t produce lots of eggs, so I would get a better result trying for 4-6 high quality eggs that 12-15 and having most of them be immature. I have follicles – and with even these low levels I am producing 4-6 good sized follicles and a number of smaller ones. However twice now, I have ended up with nothing to transfer back.
The first time, despite having lots of follicles prior to the trigger, they were only able to get 1 egg, and then after some digging got three more small ones. Only the one was mature, and although all of them eventually fertilized, none made it to blastocyst. Afterward they told me that it was likely due to poor quality eggs that weren’t quite mature enough, and next time they would stimulate me a little longer.
This time around I was basically on the same protocol, but we did go one extra day. At trigger I had three large follicles on my left 25, 23, 21 – and an 18 and 19 on my right pus a couple smaller ones ones the right. The next day (about 15 hrs later) blood levels looked good they said – LH had increased 22 (from 7),progesterone was 2.4, HcG was 63 – and said we were on target for retrieval. That night I had pains, but didn’t think much of it. At my scan the next day, the nurse saw only one large follicle on the left, and three on the right 17, 16 and 14. She was ready to send me to egg retrieval when I told her there must be something wrong – all my big follicles were on the left. she checked again and then went to talk to the doctor. They determined that it looked like I ovulated – but wanted to do the retrieval anyway to see if they could get those follicles on the right. I told them I didn’t think it seemed worth it, but they insisted and I was so distraught and emotional I finally agreed. At the retrieval we discovered the large one on the left was just a cyst, probably leftover from the release of the other eggs. They got three eggs from the right, but they were all immature, and 2 days later still have not fertilized. I’m not holding my breath.
So to get back to my original question – it appears that I ovulated — but not because of lack of suppression which is what happens to most people – instead I ovulated sooner than expected after the trigger. And now, I am wondering if maybe that’s what happened the first time too. I hadn’t been writing down all my follicle sizes etc.. the first time around, but I knew there were plenty- so I was so confused to end up with so few eggs. I kept wondering what could have happened to them!!! Is it reasonable to think that I might respond more quickly than average to the hcg trigger and ovulate in 24 hours rather than 40? If so, how do we go about timing it in the future? Is there a better way to optimize it for me so they can still have time to mature, but we can capture them before they are released?
What you are experiencing is the consequence of “premature Luteinization” (premature LH surge. This is commonly seen in women with DOR who are on protocols of stimulation that result in excess LH-induced testosterone. You need a long pituitary don-regulation protocol using the agonist/antagonist conversion protocol (A/ACP) approach.See below.
Please go to the home page of this blog, http://www.IVFauthority.com . When you get there, look for a “search bar” in the upper right hand corner. Type the following subjects into the bar, click on it and it will take you to all the relevant articles posted there.
1. “An Individualized Approach to Ovarian stimulation” (posted on November 22nd, 2010)
2. “Ovarian Stimulation in IVF: Why is it important to down-regulate LH?”
3. “Agonist/Antagonist Conversion Protocol”
4. “Premature Luteinization”
5. “Empty follicle syndrome”
6. “Traveling for IVF from Out of State/Country– The Process at SIRM-Las Vegas” (posted on March, 21st 2012)
7.“A personalized, stepwise approach to IVF at SIRM”; Parts 1 & 2 (posted March, 2012)
8. “IVF success: Factors that influence outcome”
Consider calling 800-780-7437 or 702-699-7437 to arrange a Skype consultation (free of charge to those who reside in the United States or Canada) with me so we can discuss your case in detail
Geoff Sher
But my LH remained low until I triggered. Since HcG mimics LH, why would it matter if my LH began to rise after the trigger? Shouldn’t it still take 36 hours?
I have been through four IVF cycles with only one success. The successful cycle was when I had the fewest number of follicles prior to retrieval. That cycle we retrieved four eggs and all four embryos fertilized and implanted. We had to do selective reduction to one. I have used the 250 mcg trigger of Ovidrel for all of my cycles and I was wondering if you think that doubling the dose of Ovidrel would be beneficial. My doctor said that it should have no effect, but I have read online that 250 mcg is an insufficient dose for IVF.
I would respectfully vehemently disagree. 250mcg of Ovidrel in my opinion is equivalent go about 5,000U of regular uhCG (i.e., about half the ideal dosage).
Geoff Sher
Dear Doctor, my progesterone levels are 3ng/ml, today is the day of my HCG trigger. Given the slightly higher number, should I just freeze all the embryos or should I go ahead? My previous fresh cycle resulted in ectopic pregnancy, and then of 6 frozen day2 embryos, only 1 resulted in pregnancy- which was biochemical
It is not whether you freeze embryos. If a problem is associated with an elevated P4, it relates top egg and subsequently embryo quality, not uterine receptivity.
Geoff Sher
I have undergone 4 unsuccessful IVF cycles. 1(4 eggs,2 fertilized, 1 transfer), 2(4 eggs all immature), 3(9 eggs only 1 mature,fertilized & transfer), 4(6 eggs, none mature). My dr’s are now trying a different trigger of 3 ovidril pens plus lucrin (1st and 3rd cycle was pregnol, 2 & 4 was ovidril, with 4th using 3 pens). Plus delaying trigger till after day 12 (trigger times varied day 11 to 13). Do u think this will be enough to get mature eggs? Also I have the option again of using Growth Hormone – will this benefit as i used it cycle 3 & 4 but hard to tell as only 1 mature egg?
This has to do with ovarian reserve and the protocol used for ovarian stimulation. I cannot comment about what would be ideal for you without knowing much more, I am afraid.
Please go to the home page of this blog, http://www.IVFauthority.com . When you get there, look for a “search bar” in the upper right hand corner. Type the following subjects into the bar, click on it and it will take you to all the relevant articles posted there.
1. “An Individualized Approach to Ovarian stimulation” (posted on November 22nd, 2010)
2. “Ovarian Stimulation in IVF: Why is it important to down-regulate LH?”
3. “Agonist/Antagonist Conversion Protocol”
Consider calling 800-780-7437 or 702-699-7437 to arrange a Skype consultation (free of charge to those who reside in the United States or Canada) with me so we can discuss your case in detail
Geoff Sher
Hi my sister went through two IUI, which failed. Now she went with IVF, and the implantation was on 17 april 2013, and yesterday (1-5-2013) she was asked to do a HCG test, the result from the blood drawn at 8am, HCG levels came 11.19, and the doctor asked her to take another test some place else, and the result taken from the blood sample drawn at 1.30pm was 11.20.
However the doctor explained that it should have been atleast 100+, and asked her to take another test on 4-5-2013. What do you suggest is going on, any medications to improve. or anything at all which can be done. Please suggest.
Thanks a lot
Ideally she should already be on hormonal supplementation therapy. The blood beta hCG levels should double over a period of approximately 48H. If it doubles, then you should discuss with the treating RE on how to proceed.
Geoff Sher
Hi.. my sister had done last year two IUI, they failed. This march, she went for IVF treatment, and the implantation was done on April 17th, and the doctors said, there are 2 excellent embryos, and one good, all the three were implanted. And she was under medication and yesterday (1-5-2013), she took HCG test, the blood sample drawn at 8am, showed 11.19 mIU/ml, and doctor explained, the level should have been atleast around 100, so asked her to take test in another center, the blood sample drawn at 1pm, the HCG level was 11.20 mIU/ml. Is there anything that can be done at all. She is asked to take another test on saturday, just in case.
Can any medication be done this time or any procedure at all. Please suggest
Thanks a lot…
My sister wrote on my behalf (previous) mail. I am currenly on –
Susten 300
Folic acid
progynova
Nutracell
and Duphaston.
My BHCG was 11.20 on 1st May and i need to go for another blood test tomorrow. what should the ideal HCG level be tomorrow so that i can hope for the best.
My embyros were excellent on the day of transfer. I did not freeze any hoping that this would work for me.
I am really disappointed.
Please suggest something so that i can follow.
Regards,
chitra.
Hi Chitra,
Thanks for taking the time to post here.
Your beta should double by tomorrow. Let’s wait and see first how that turns out!
Good luck!
Geoff Sher
Hi Geoffrey,
Bad luck, my HCG showed 2 and i got to know that my IVF failed, i was given Lupi HMG HP 75 shots for close to 15 days to enhance good quality eggs and during the egg retrieval, i had too much of pain and the doc said that it was difficult to remove the eggs. During the ET, the doc said that the egg quality was excellent, after the IVF failed, i inquired what went wrong, she informed that the egg quality matters and she said some chromosomes and anomaly, i was not in a mindset to listen to all that. NOw she is suggesting i go for donor eggs, and also suggested that i give a endometrium biopsy to rule our endometrium TB, now this is a new thing for me. I do not want to waste my money because i have no money, i have spent a lot and in mood to get disappointed again. This is my 3rd failure (2 IUIs and 1 IVF). I am obese, i do not get my periods regularly and have PCOD. During the doppler scan, the doc said everything is fine, but due to overweight, the ovaries are not in the right position.
Now you suggest me doc, with all these will i be able to conceive again. I have no hope and have lost intrest in everything. Should i try another IVF with donor eggs, What are the chances of conception? Monetarily, i am not strong and now i am not strong mentally as well, appreciate your time and valuable suggestion.
Chitra,
Perhaps we should talk rather than try and address many complex issues via this forum. In the meanwhile, Please go to the home page of this blog, http://www.IVFauthority.com. When you get there, look for a “search bar” in the upper right hand corner. Type the following subjects into the bar, click on it and it will take you to all the relevant articles posted there.
1. “An Individualized Approach to Ovarian stimulation” (posted on November 22nd, 2010)
2. “Ovarian Stimulation in IVF: Why is it important to down-regulate LH?”
3. “Agonist/Antagonist Conversion Protocol”
4. “Immunologic Implantation Dysfunction” (posted on May, 10th and on May 16th respectively.
5. “Embryo Implantation………” (Part-1 and Part- 2—-Posted August 2012)
6. “Traveling for IVF from Out of State/Country– The Process at SIRM-Las Vegas” (posted on March, 21st 2012)
7.“A personalized, stepwise approach to IVF at SIRM”; Parts 1 & 2 (posted March, 2012)
8. “IVF success: Factors that influence outcome”
9. “Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (PCOS)”
10. “Use of the Birth Control Pill in IVF”
Consider calling 800-780-7437 or 702-699-7437 to arrange for a Skype consultation (free of charge to those who reside in the United States or Canada) with me so we can discuss your case in detail
Geoff Sher
Hi Geoff,
I will log into those pages and will check the information. Meeanwhile, please let me know what would be the best time to contact you over the phone – time zone. I am from India, is there any particular number i need to dial in?
702-699-7437 (on the West coast of the U.S.A)…between 9.00AM and 5.00PM.
Geoff Sher
Dr. Sher,
Our second IVF cycle just failed. We had a perfect looking 5-day blast transferred. Today hcg level came out to be 3. We also have 3 frozen embryos. This time, we were on 1mll PIO. Wife didn’t have any spotting, but at same time she didn’t have any signs of being pregnant. Not sure what happened.
I cannot comment with consulting on the specifics.
Sorry!
Geoff Sher
Dear Dr. Sher:
Seeking a second opinion re my fertility Tx. Had second IUI 5/17/13 (1st with Clomid). Ovidrel shot on 5/16/13AM. Got positive OPK on 5/19/13 AM, had intercourse that night. Still another positive OPK 5/20/13 PM and 5/21/13 AM. Noted cervical mucous 5/20/13 and 5/21/13. Concerned that did not ovulate in time for IUI and it was not well timed. Are there any other factors that could cause this? Also am interested in a free phone consult if you are providing those.
Thanks,
Lisa
In my opinion you had intercourse late. Once the hCG is given, you need to have intercourse within 36-40 hours or so or it will be too late.
Geoff Sher
Do you provide free consults via phone?